Let’s play a game: I give you all the dots, but this time you do the joining.
I’ll help a bit, but I can see it from space .

#1

What also is unknown is that Zelensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war…

Seymour Hersh – Trading with the Enemy

So, if Ukraine is buying fuel from its enemy, Russia, then also Russia is selling fuel to its enemy, Ukraine. And together, they manage to keep the meatgrinder rolling.
I wish some of my former friends were more like these enemies.

#2

THE GREAT CON FUSION. IT’S BY DESIGN

#3

HAS PUTIN REALLY DEFECTED FROM THE GREAT RESET? I WAS HESITATING, NOT ANYMORE

In this attention economy, everyone is broke, I often say.
I hope you have a little bit of real attention capital to invest in these and if you do it properly, the return is better than peak Bitcoin.
Unless you’re among the very few who saw it already. Chapeau to you!

Wish you best of focus!

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Whether you parade for her or against her, I will rain on it.

If you ditch their narrative just to fall for their counter-narrative, you’re not waking up, you’re barely changing bed side.
But it’s time to snooze off now.

This is a little video summary of this report, all the juice is below

‘I believe that the existence of Israel is vital and I will make every effort to invest in greater cooperation between our countries’

Poised to become Italy’s first woman prime minister, Giorgia Meloni speaks with Israel Hayom, saying Putin “crossed a red line” while dismissing the Left’s “ridiculous accusations” of fascism against her.

Published by Israel Hayom on  9-16-2022 13:33

Giorgia Meloni, leader of far-right Fratelli d’Italia party, looks on durin | Photo: Reuters / Yara Nardi

It appears that history is about to be made in Italy: Giorgia Meloni, the 45-year old leader of the national conservative party Fratelli d’Italia (Brothers of Italy), has pledged to fight mass immigration and Islamization and has been very critical of the European Union, is poised to be elected as the country’s first woman prime minister in the parliamentary election in late September.

Her main rival, former Prime Minister Enrico Letta, the leader of the Democratic Party (PD), has warned that she is a threat to Italians. Her detractors on the Left accuse her of radicalism and affinity to fascist ideas but Meloni − who is spearheading a coalition of right-wing parties − has dismissed this outright. Speaking with  Israel Hayom Meloni lashes out at those who engage in anti-Israel and antisemitic attacks, which are now a common feature in left-wing circles.

Q: According to the polls, you are about to become the first woman to serve as Italy’s prime minister. Italian society is considered to be very macho. What is your secret?

“Today’s Italy is somewhat different from the macho stereotype that is still sewn onto it. Nonetheless, it is clear that having a female prime minister would mean breaking that “glass ceiling” that does not enable women to emerge both at institutional and professional levels. I have established myself in a male environment, often feeling that I had to work twice as hard to prove that I was half as good as a man, but in the end, I am proud that I grew up in a political family that chose me as a leader by acknowledging my merits and without any man pushing me forward. That is one of the things that shortcircuits the Left, which has always had nothing to offer but proclamations about the role of women in politics. Then I also had the privilege of being able to be a mother without giving up anything. I will fight to offer the same opportunities to all Italian women by strengthening reconciliation measures and family policies.”

Q: Do you think women do politics differently from men?

“Some people claim that I made it because I became as good as a man. I think I made it because I became as good as a woman. And that is exactly what I want to say to women. In the West, we frequently use mandatory quotas as a solution to the problem: on party lists, corporate boards, etc. Rather, I believe that the solution must take into account both merit and opportunity. Opportunity, since a woman should never be forced to choose between her career and her family life in order to demonstrate her worth. Merit, because if the selection is made on merit there are numerous exceptionally good women and there’s no need for quotas.”

Q: Of all the women, which led their nations − Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi, Benazir Bhutto just to name a few − who inspires you the most?

“I would like to think that I can get the best from each of them because I always expect a lot from myself, something that pushes me to study hard and constantly try to improve myself. The extraordinary women you mentioned shaped the history of their nations and of their times. They were known and frequently loved and admired around the globe. Regardless of their political views, they all loved and defended their country. This, to me, is what a good ruler should always do.”

Q: The Italian election is taking place in stormy times: a menacing global economic and social crisis, the war in Ukraine that has no end, tensions between the USA and China over Taiwan, a possible new war in the Middle East around Iran’s nuclear plans. As a future prime minister, what are going to be your priorities?

“First of all, in the midst of such a storm, you must keep the steering wheel on the starboard side, for us it is Italy’s fundamental European and Western positioning. This is not just a statement of principle, but a choice of the field upon which most of our national policy decisions are based. The most pressing of these is undoubtedly to assist businesses and families in dealing with high energy prices because we will face a severe social crisis in the fall and must do everything possible to avoid it. Only after the emergency has settled, we want to cut labor taxes to boost purchasing power, unleash the forces of our economy, reduce bureaucracy to encourage investment, build tangible and intangible infrastructure, and invest in family policies by getting rid of all those pointless bonuses that fuel welfares but don’t advance the country.”

Q: The EU establishment and European press consider you as a threat to the European project. How do you foresee future relations between Italy and the EU?

“In this sense, the Left is putting forward a narrative aimed at doing me a wrong, but it actually paints Italy in a negative light, offering non-existent arguments to those who want to keep Italy on the periphery of the international stage. The truth, of course, is very different. Italy is a great nation that founded the EU, is a net contributor to the EU budget, and has the third largest economy and the second largest manufacturing in Europe. The voice of Italy must count more, and our national interests must be better protected, just as France’s and Germany’s are. Concerning the future of Europe, first the pandemic and now the war demonstrated that the EU was not prepared. For far too long, Brussels has expanded its competencies in several aspects of our daily lives, disregarding the importance of having a common foreign and defense policy, disregarding the importance of ensuring our energy independence, without shortening our value chains, and without bringing strategic productions back home. In this regard, I would like to see a Europe that does fewer things but does them better, with less centralism, less bureaucracy, and more politics. This will be our contribution to the debate about the future of Europe.”

Q: How would you define your party, The Brothers of Italy (Fdl)?

“FdI is the party of the Italian conservatives; we support individual freedom, the centrality of the family, the preservation of the Western, European, and Italian cultural identities, as well as self-reliance and private economic initiative and social cohesion. We are a modern European and Western right-wing government, a pillar of the European Conservatives and Reformists Party of which the prime ministers of Poland and Czech Republic are members and which I have the honor of chairing. We also have strong ties to Likud, the British Tories, and the American Republicans.

Q: Some members of your party come from Benito Mussolini’s family. The party has connections to the National Alliance − which emerged from the Italian Social Movement. What do you say to all those who accuse your party of neo-fascism?

“These are ridiculous accusations, coming from a desperate Left without arguments. But I don’t want to dodge the question, because I know how delicate it can be to your readers. Fratelli d’Italia is part of the evolving path of the Italian democratic right and since its foundation, it has gathered personalities from other center-right parties, from the Catholic and liberal worlds. Those who, like me, pursue that route, have handed fascism over to history for decades now, firmly condemning the loss of democracy, the outrageous anti-Jewish laws, and the tragedy of World War II. Many of us have previously held government roles; I, myself, was the youngest minister in republican history. We have all sworn the constitutional oath. Everyone knows that we have never been a threat to democracy and obviously we do not become one now, though we are certainly “dangerous” for the power system of the Italian Left, which has been in government for years without winning the elections. The difference between us and them is that I don’t spend my days remembering that, just over thirty years ago, many leftists were members of the strongest pro-Soviet party in the West. It is enough for me to list all the damage made by the left-wing governments today, without having to dig into the past.”

Q: Where do you see the ideological differences between your party and right-wing Lega (League) party?

“The League was born as a territorial party that first fought for independence and, in a second phase, greater autonomy for the regions of northern Italy. We come from a national party tradition that pays equal attention to Italy’s north and south. The League temporarily filled the void left by the Right’s decision to merge with former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to establish a unified center-right party, the People of Freedom. We progressively regained the values, and consequently the electorate, of the Italian Right when, at the end of 2012, we left that party to create Fratelli d’Italia. We also made efforts to widen our electoral base. In recent years, the League has consented to form a coalition government with left-wing parties and movements, while for us, being an alternative to the Left has always been a political imperative, out of respect of our voters.”

Q: Have you ever visited Israel? Are you planning to do so soon?

“Yes, certainly. I was on an official visit to Israel when I was serving as minister during the last Berlusconi government. It was a very significant mission, with the moving visit to Yad Vashem: a conscience-shaking experience. I will certainly return to Israel, hopefully soon. It was something I was considering due to my role as president of the European Conservative Party, of which Likud friends are also members. But the war in Ukraine, the political crisis in Israel, and then the early elections in Italy as well have changed the agenda. I hope to return there as soon as possible, this time as head of government, to discuss together with the new Israeli government about joint collaborations and strategies, starting with those for the supply of natural gas through the eastern Mediterranean Sea.”

Q: What is for you the importance of a Jewish state?

“Israel represents the only fully-fledged democracy in the broader Middle East, and we defend without any reservations its right to exist and live in security. I believe that the existence of the State of Israel is vital, and Fratelli d’Italia will make every effort to invest in greater cooperation between our countries. After all, this has been the friendly attitude that the Italian Center-Right has always held towards Israel whenever it has been in government. On the other hand, the Left cannot say the same, not traditionally and neither in this election campaign, which has brought to light repeated incidents of left-wing candidates being caught writing antisemitic-flavored posts on their social media.”

Q: Do you see a connection between those who call to destroy Israel militarily or through boycotts as a continuation of traditional antisemitism?

“Yes, and I also think that one of the most common manifestations of antisemitism today is anti-Israel propaganda, which Jews in Europe are most likely to encounter online. Jews in Europe are also subjected to the threat coming not only from Far-Left and Far-Right factions but especially from radicalized Islamic immigrants who feed on resentment with regards to Israel. I recall the recent death of young Jeremy Cohen, who was trying to flee an antisemitic attack in the suburbs of Paris when he was killed by a tram. Because the tragedy would have drawn attention to the failure of integration policies, few European media outlets chose to report it. Therefore, as European Conservatives and Fratelli d’Italia, we strongly support the new European Union strategy against antisemitism. Israel is and ought to continue to be a crucial ally of the European Union in the endeavor to eradicate this evil worldwide. We support efforts to increase young students’ understanding of Jewish history, religion, and culture. This will support the elimination of societal prejudices and the full acceptance of Jewish customs in Europe.”

Q: Will a government headed by you recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the Italian embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

“This is a very sensitive issue, on which I think the next Italian government, like all those before it, will have to act in synergy with our partners in the European Union.”

Q: Italy has close economic relations with Iran. How, in your opinion, should the West prevent Iran from becoming a military nuclear power and how can Italy contribute to it?

“Sanctions have had a heavy impact on many Italian companies that had built strong economic ties with Iran, nevertheless it is certainly not time for second thoughts unless certain conditions are met. Indeed, we are extremely concerned about Iran’s role in the region, its ongoing rapprochement with Russia and China, its continued support for Hezbollah, which continues to threaten Israel’s security, as well as the IAEA’s report indicating that there are insufficient effective controls over Iran’s missile development. Without additional assurances for Israel, which is reasonably anxious about the timing of uranium enrichment required to create the atomic weapon, we believe it will be difficult to revive the 2015 deal. We firmly supported the Abraham’s Accords as a means of maintaining regional stability and curbing down Iran’s aggressive foreign policy; therefore we believe they should be further implemented.”

Q: How can one stop the war in Ukraine and do you fear a greater war in Europe?

“The war on Ukraine is not only a blatant violation of international law, an aggression against the territorial integrity of a sovereign nation, and a manifestation of Russian expansionism but an attempt to subvert the current world order to the detriment of the West and for the benefit of communist China. A scenario that Europe must strongly reject. A possible expansion of the war to other Eastern European nations is an eventuality denounced by our Polish friends, which unfortunately we must not underestimate. For this reason, we must not stop supporting Ukraine. Look, I say this firmly but with just as much regret, even knowing the special ties that historically unite Israel and Russia. In 2002, Italy itself hosted a NATO-Russia summit to build an enlarged West and face together the threat brought by Islamic terrorism. Twenty years have passed, that prospect has stalled, and Putin has unfortunately crossed a red line.”

Q: Should the West and the EU increase sanctions on Russia or should they seek to soften the pressure on Moscow in order to advance a diplomatic solution?

“The Ukrainian counteroffensive these days demonstrates that the stranglehold exerted by sanctions and the sending of weapons to Kyiv is beginning to work and I do not think it should be loosened. It does, however, raise an issue of the endurance of Europe and the West vis-à-vis the economic and political cost of the sanctions, which clearly impact differently from nation to nation, with some major Western states even enriching themselves from this situation. That is why we have for some time been strongly calling for the creation of a compensation fund, supplied by the EU and NATO countries (the US first and foremost), to support the most vulnerable nations and to prevent Russian propaganda from making its way to the very many people who will have enormous subsistence problems next fall.”

Q: What is your favorite book? Music? Movies? Food? And do you consider yourself to be religious? 

“My favorite book by far is J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Lord of the Rings,” a wonderful tale that is very beneficial for those in politics: It teaches one to put the fate of one’s community ahead of one’s individual destiny, but also not to be charmed by the thirst for power.  As for music, I listen to everything, from rock to classical music. Each chapter of my autobiography is introduced by the quotation of a song: from Ed Sheeran to Adele, passing through two Italian giants such as Battisti and Battiato. My favorite movie is Braveheart, a tale of love and courage that was important for my generation.  I love traditional Italian dishes. Wherever I go I like to eat the local specialty, which is also an important identity factor for each territory.  I am Catholic, I believe in God, and among the Church figures to whom I am most attached is John Paul II.

Just how ‘far-right’ is Italy’s ‘nationalist’ Giorgia Meloni?

Special to WorldTribune, July 19, 2022

Analysis by Joe Schaeffer247 Real News

We don’t pretend to be experts on Italian politics. Nevertheless, the similarities with fake populist Republicans here in America is unmistakable. The warning message: for a deeply unpopular ruling elite, the best way to remain in power at the moment may be to subvert and control the public backlash roiling against it.

It would appear odd on the surface that the ruling establishment’s propaganda units seem to be enjoying the rise of “far-right” Italian politician Giorgia Meloni. As big-box stalwart Politico wrote last month:

Crucial to Meloni’s success is that she represents the traditional nationalist right better than [rival Matteo] Salvini, and that she has remained out of government, said [University of Surrey professor Danielle] Albertazzi. “It doesn’t mean she will be successful three or four years from now,” he added. “But this is her moment.”

Numerous other outlets are echoing that last sentence: Giorgia Meloni’s time has arrived. This alone should be cause for skepticism. And, indeed, a review of Meloni shows as much red flags flying as can be found with a hedge fund multi-millionaire posing as an America First devotee on this side of the Atlantic.

For an alleged “far right” fanatical nationalist who smacks of Mussolinian fascism, Meloni has a highly disturbing habit of speaking the international language of globalism.

Here is how she described her support for the progressive ruling establishment globalist crusade in Ukraine:

“I am backing this because Italy should not abandon its international allies,” she told [UK newspaper] The Times. “I think Italy should show it is a faithful, solid and credible ally, above and beyond the Ukrainian cause, which I support.”

The Italian Post quoted her remarks to Italian television station Sky TG24 on the subject in February. This is indistinguishable from what a member of the Biden administration would say in dropping gobbledygook about preserving the “rules-based international order”:

“I believe that the violation of the territorial integrity of a nation, also European, is unacceptable against which the community must react: this is the position of [her political party] the Brothers of Italy,” said Meloni, referring to what is happening in Ukraine. “Russia is certainly a nation very close to the European dimension on a cultural level, but this does not detract from international law and the fact that Italy, which is part of the Atlantic Alliance, today must firmly, without hesitation, reaffirm that positioning and do everything that can be done to defend international law.”

Antony Blinken or Jake Sullivan couldn’t have said it better:

“We are always for respect for the rules and for loyalty with our international allies who are part of the Atlantic alliance. Indeed, our parliamentarians who spoke today signaled that if Italy wanted to be more central, credible and more considered, perhaps it should respect constraints,” continued the leader of the Brothers of Italy, explaining that Italy should contribute more to defense costs as part of its membership of NATO.

“Far-right nationalists” also are not in the habit of joining internationalist think tanks. Yet Meloni is a member of the notorious Aspen Institute. See picture 3 accompanying this article from The Aspen Institute Italia website.

Just like a plugged-in RINO here at home, Meloni was invited to speak at CPAC. Italian news site Formiche reported in February 2021:

Giorgia Meloni, the leader of the right-wing Brothers of Italy party, is on a star-spangled roll. Rumors obtained by Formiche.net say she might participate, either online or in person, to the next Conservative political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando, Florida, although her name isn’t on the guest list yet….

If Ms. Meloni does participate, this latest development is yet another step on the American ladder she has been building for some time. A few weeks ago, she became a member of the Aspen Institute, the powerful and influential American think tank led by the political veteran and academic Giulio Tremonti. The halls of Aspen’s Roman division are crossed by all sorts of heavyweight thinkers and leaders, including [Joe] Biden during his tenure as Barack Obama‘s Vice-President.

Meloni did speak at CPAC this year, where she stressed a generic need to be “conservative,” oppose “cancel culture” and defend Christmas, while again stating her strong support for “the side of international law.” It’s the RINO GOP primary playbook and Meloni was reciting it word for word.

Formiche laid out Meloni’s carefully crafted strategy to cement her status in the European conservative mainstream. The pattern should be familiar to anyone who has observed the careerist American conservative politician in his natural element:

In September 2020, she became chairwoman of the European Conservatives and Reformist party, the 10th biggest European political family. She explained this by distancing herself from her former flat-out Euroscepticism and embracing the idea that she could best defend the Italian’s interests from within the European institutions….

She is walking a fine line between keeping true to her party’s right-wing ideologies and enhancing them with the international alliances and support that are necessary to become a truly palatable (and effective) global leader.

The bigger picture emerging is that of an internationally savvy politician, one who has understood the limits of extreme nationalism and anti-establishment positions and who is weaving a global web of influence.

Ms. Meloni’s strengthening American ties show that she pictures herself as part of the global congress of institutional conservatives, and might also dampen the “anti-institutional” blowback that rejecting the Draghi government might have brought onto her. Her entrance in the Aspen Institute signals that she has dropped the anti-establishment, anti-“powers-that-be” populist rhetoric, and mark her as a trustworthy, well-connected thinking head.

A May Bloomberg article also touched on the curious gymnastics of the woman whose “party sprang from the ashes of fascism,” as the dominant media outlet so luridly put it.

Question: Does the world really need a right-wing Tony Blair?

Meloni is now the only real political star untainted by the machinations of the sistema. She’s learned lessons from the failure of the hardcore euroskepticism of [Marine] Le Pen and Salvini — indeed, she’d distanced herself from Le Pen, well before the French elections. Meloni’s positioned herself as a new type of conservative, calling herself “a right wing” Tony Blair. If that’s confusing, it’s probably intended to be. Many of Meloni’s positions are contradictory. She knows Italy needs European Union funds, hence the softer anti-EU stance. But she remains openly opposed to immigration and against European federalism. An unmarried mother, she presents herself as a defender of Christian, traditional family values.

Meloni is supposedly ardently pro-life yet she is already wobbling on getting rid of Italy’s notorious Act 194, which legalized abortion in the overwhelmingly Catholic country in 1978, in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned in the U.S. MercatorNet reports:

Meanwhile the leader of Fratelli d’Italia, a right-wing party is hedging her bets. Giorgia Meloni says that she isn’t working for the abolition of Act 194, but rather wants to see its first part, concerning abortion prevention, honored. She also points out that the American situation was very different from Italy’s, where abortion is allowed by a law voted by the parliament and not by a court ruling.

A stridently anti-right article that appeared in Israel’s Haaretz newspaper in July 2021 convincingly portrays Meloni as a total political opportunist on the gravely important issue of COVID social tyranny:

Earlier this month, Italy introduced a “green pass” for vaccinated people, a requirement for entry into restaurants, bars, museums and other public venues. Meloni panned it as a move that “limits the freedom of citizens, further devastates the economy and de facto introduces a vaccine mandate.”

In various tweets she’s called the decision “dangerous and discriminatory” and described the green pass as an “unconstitutional folly” and “the final step on the road to the creation of an Orwellian society.” For the Brothers of Italy, Meloni declares, individual freedom is “scared and inviolable.”

This is the same politician who, as recently as this March, wrote a panegyric to the green pass idea: “Why doesn’t the EU Commission request an emergency procedure to the EU Parliament to approve the digital green pass? The green pass is the first step to eliminating the obstacles to free movement that have so damaged our economy, especially the tourism sector. It’s a tool that should be implemented as soon as possible.”

Accused of hypocrisy, Meloni grabbed the goalposts and relocated them. She claimed she supported a different green pass – one that allowed international travel – but that she was against, had always been against, would always be against, a green pass that limits access to venues within the country.

On this topic, Meloni once again apes the party line language of the progressive ruling establishment:

In 2018, discussing vaccine mandates, she wrote the following tweet, which has since been deleted, but had been archived by some savvy Italian media observers.

On vaccines we need to have the humility of trusting the scientific community,” Meloni said then. “I think going back would be a mistake. It’s a topic that must not be dealt with on an ideological level: let those who are competent decide which vaccines are necessary and mandatory.”

The progressive ruling establishment crosses all borders. Which is to be expected considering its chief aim is to abolish those boundaries to erect its one-world order. Joe Biden, Pierre Trudeau, Emmanuel Macron are all essentially indistinguishable in this regard. Each is the same flavor of servant on behalf of one grand overarching agenda.

America First advocates therefore should have a keen desire to see populist nationalism thrive in countries around the world. In order to truly oppose that which is being planned, however, authentic representatives of freedom and sovereignty must arise here and abroad.

Unfortunately, the ruling establishment is all too aware of this fact as well. Controlling the reaction against it is and has always been a powerful weapon in the arsenal of tyranny.

LATER UPDATE: MELONI IS ALSO AN ESTEEMED MEMBER OF THE ASPEN INSTITUTE, ALONGSIDE THE LIKES OF NANCY PELOSI AND BILL GATES

“You are the same person who rushed to join the ASPEN INSTITUTE which is the sewer of the worst globalism and the worst speculative international finance. You did not hesitate to assume the presidency of the Conservative Party in the European Parliament.”

Open letter to Giorgia Meloni, by Prof. AUGUSTO SINAGRA, professor of European Community law at the Faculty of Political Sciences of the University of Rome “La Sapienza”. Attorney before the Higher Courts, in ITALY and the European Court of Human Rights, in STRASBOURG.
“The Aspen Institute Kyiv actively participated in the organization of the program for the Ukraine House Davos. During a week Ukraine House Davos organized panel discussions, cultural events and networking sessions for the world’s business elite. The conversation focused on panelists’ experience related to leadership roles they play in organizations that are aimed at positive social changes. Ukraine House Davos is powered by co-organizers Ukrainian Venture Capital and Private Equity Association (UVCA), Western NIS Enterprise Fund (WNISEF), Victor Pinchuk Foundation and Horizon Capital.” – The Aspen Institute

You can’t be free until you freed your mind from the statist religion and break ALL the illusory political chains.

 A modern country is just a slave barrack designed and built by masons for Jewish use.
Of course you will experience some bonds, quarrels and common history in a slave barrack.
That doesn’t make it holy.
Only your best friends, most peaceful people and wisest elders there are worth of praise, not the shack, not the management, not the herd symbols they burn in your mind.

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Flogging a dead terrorist by the methods of your former boss’ playbook, how it’s done:

Remember: the US Government is the only source for the news of Bin Laden’s assassination by the US Government. There have been many reports of his death before the alleged assassination. There are no three independent sources to verify any of their claims. 

No three sources, as opposed to Arab News in 2020, which themselves display a very cautious tone, but, formally, are way more based, despite the Israeli commentator’s opinions on WION TV:

Ayman al-Zawahiri ‘dead’ – Al-Qaeda boss dies from asthma in Afghan mountain hideout, reports claim

  • The Sun 11:52, 20 Nov 2020
  • Updated: 12:55, 20 Nov 2020

AL-QAEDA leader Ayman al-Zawahiri who took over after the death of Osama bin Laden has reportedly died in Afghanistan.

Al-Zawahiri – sometimes dubbed Dr Death – last appeared in a video message for the group on the anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks on the US.

Ayman al-Zawahiri took up leadership after the death of Osama bin Laden
Ayman al-Zawahiri took up leadership after the death of Osama bin LadenCredit: Getty Images – Getty
Ayman al-Zawahiri and Osama bin Laden
Ayman al-Zawahiri and Osama bin LadenCredit: AP:Associated Press

Arab News reports the terrorist, 68, died of natural causes related to asthma citing four sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

US intelligence officials are reportedly aware of the reports and are attempting to confirm whether or not they are true.

The Sun Online has contacted the UK Ministry of Defence and the Foreign Office.

An al-Qaeda translator told Arab News: “He died last week in Ghazni. He died of asthma because he had no formal treatment.”

A Pakistani security official added: “We believe he is no longer alive. We are firm that he has died of natural causes.”

Another source close to al-Qaeda said he died earlier this month and a small number of followers attended his funeral in Ghazni.

“What we know is that he was having some breathing issues and has passed away somewhere in Afghanistan,” they said.

Other security sources were cited as being aware the terrorist was “extremely ill” and another said he was in “unstable health”.

It comes after the death of al-Qaeda’s second in command Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, also known as Abu Muhammad al-Masri.

He was reportedly shot dead along with his daughter by two hitmen actin on US orders on a motorcycle in Tehran, Iran, in August.

Ayman al-Zawahiri and his old boss Osama bin Laden
Ayman al-Zawahiri and his old boss Osama bin LadenCredit: Reuters
Ayman al-Zawahiri has reportedly died of asthma
Ayman al-Zawahiri has reportedly died of asthma Credit: AFP – Getty

It also follows the death of Hamza bin Laden – Osama’s son – in a US counter terrorism operation in 2019.

All three of their deaths in such quick succession opens up a potential power vacuum at the top of the evil organisation.

The FBI still lists al-Masri and al-Zawahiri on their most wanted terrorists page, with the bounty on the al-Qaeda boss’s head being $25million.

The terrorist is described as “armed and dangerous”.

He was indicted for his role in the devastating attacks on US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 224 people and injured thousands more in 1998.

In 2005, he praised the 7/7 London bombings, which left 56 dead — calling
Britain “one of the severest enemies of Islam”.

Ayman al-Zawahiri was known as Dr Death
Ayman al-Zawahiri was known as Dr Death

Al- Zawahiri, a former Egyptian eye surgeon, succeeded bin Laden after he was killed by US special forces during a daring raid on his compound in 2011.

He had been seen as the brains behind the global terrorist network while bin Laden was the charismatic leader.

The terrorist has remained in hiding for almost 20 years despite a manhunt being launched after the September 11 attacks.

He last appeared in a 45-minute video message this September to celebrate the World Trade Centre atrocity that killed 2,996 people.

“Flames of war between the Crusaders and the Muslims have not been extinguished,” the terrorist said.

Al-Zawahiri also raged against the US for tightening ties with Israel.

And he accused any Muslim nations normalizing relations with Israel of being “dangerous enemies”.

Ayman al-Zawahiri was an eye surgeon before turning to terror
Ayman al-Zawahiri was an eye surgeon before turning to terrorCredit: AP:Associated Press

Al-Zawahiri was born into a family of wealthy doctors and scholars in Cairo, with his grandfather being the grand imam of al-Azhar, the centre of Sunni Islamic learning in the Middle East.

Zawahiri excelled at school and enjoyed poetry but is said to have loathed “violent” sport.

He was just 15-years-old when he was first arrested for being in the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood.

In 1974, he graduated from Cairo University’s medical school, where his father was a professor.

THE ORIGINAL SOURCE OF THE CLAIM:

Al-Qaeda chief Zawahiri has died in Afghanistan — sources

Osama bin Laden, left, sits with his adviser and later successor Ayman Al-Zawahri during an interview with Dawn newspaper November 10, 2001. (AFP/File)

Arab News, November 20, 2020, Updated 21 November 2020

  • Arab News spoke to several security sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan to confirm Zawahiri’s death, two said he had died
  • If confirmed, Zawahiri’s death opens up a leadership vacuum within Al-Qaeda as two senior commanders in line to replace him have been killed recently

ISLAMABAD/KABUL: Egyptian national Ayman Al-Zawahiri, 69, has died in Afghanistan likely of natural causes, several sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan told Arab News this week, just days after reports of the Al-Qaeda leader’s passing made the rounds on social media.

Zawahiri’s last appearance was in a video message on this year’s anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in the United States.
His death, if confirmed, opens up a deep leadership vacuum within Al-Qaeda as at least two senior commanders who would have been in line to replace him have been killed recently: Hamza bin Laden, a son of slain Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who was killed in a US counter-terrorism operation, the White House announced last year; and Abu Muhamamd Al-Masri, believed to be Al-Qaeda’s second-in-command, who was killed in Iran this year, according to media reports.
Arab News spoke to at least four security sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan to confirm Zawahiri’s death. Two said he had died. All spoke off the record as they were not authorized to speak to the media on the issue.


Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, alias Abu Muhammad Al-Masri, right, is sitting next to Hamza bin Laden, the son of slain Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, during Hamza’s wedding with Al-Masri’s daughter Maryam. The wedding is estimated to have been held in 2005 in Iran. (Photo courtesy: Alarabiya)

“He [Zawahiri] died last week in Ghazni,” an Al-Qaeda translator who still enjoys close ties with the group, told Arab News on Tuesday. “He died of asthma because he had no formal treatment.”
A Pakistani security official based in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan also said Zawahiri had died.
“We believe he is no longer alive,” he said, declining to be named. “We are firm that he has died of natural causes.”
A source close to Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan told Arab News on Monday that the militant leader had passed away this month, November, and a limited number of followers had attended his funeral prayers.
The source did not clarify if the funeral prayers were held in absentia or offered as Zawahiri’s body was being buried.
“What we know is that he was having some breathing issues and has passed away somewhere in Afghanistan,” the Al-Qaeda source said.
A Pakistani security officer who is privy to ongoing anti-terror operations said: “We have received the same information that Zawahiri died about a month ago.”
The source declined to be named as he was not authorized to speak to the media on the subject.
Another Pakistani source, a civilian intelligence official, said Zawahiri’s last movements were inside Afghanistan where he was known to have been in “unstable” health. But the intelligence official could not confirm if he had died.
“To my knowledge he was extremely ill and had the issue of kidney failure,” the intelligence official said. “He was unable to manage his dialysis but I still need to confirm if he has died.”
US officials told the Associated Press this week they could not confirm reports of Zawahiri’s death but the US intelligence community was aware of the news and trying to determine its credibility.
A spokesman for Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security spy agency told Arab News he had not heard about Zawahiri’s death and the organization had no comment on the matter.
Arab News has not been able to independently verify the claims by its sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Although Al-Qaeda has been overshadowed in recent years by the rise of the Daesh group, it remains resilient and has active affiliates around the globe, a United Nations counterterrorism report issued in July concluded.



Saif Al-Adl, Al Qaeda’s senior military strategist at an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, January 2000. (Source:  Wikipedia)

Among the top leaders of Al-Qaeda who are still at large and could succeed Zawahiri is Saif Al-Adl, who is a head of the militant group’s Shoura Council. Adl has been on the FBI’s list of Most Wanted Terrorists since its inception in 2001 and the State Department’s Rewards for Justice Program is offering up to $10 million for information on his location.
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When replacement migration happens in white countries, who are they replacing?
I mean, it can’t be whites because White Replacement Theory is just a conspiracy theory, ADL and CNN told me so.

Abstract:

Discussion:

This is the groomer background noise right now:

This came up in 2001, the year that started many migration waves and tsunamis.

United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.

United Nations

Press Release
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NEW REPORT ON REPLACEMENT MIGRATION ISSUED BY UN POPULATION DIVISION

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NEW YORK, 17 March (DESA) — The Population Division of the Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) has released a new report titled “Replacement Migration: Is it a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations?”. Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to prevent population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.

United Nations projections indicate that between 1995 and 2050, the population of Japan and virtually all countries of Europe will most likely decline. In a number of cases, including Estonia, Bulgaria and Italy, countries would lose between one quarter and one third of their population. Population ageing will be pervasive, bringing the median age of population to historically unprecedented high levels. For instance, in Italy, the median age will rise from 41 years in 2000 to 53 years in 2050. The potential support ratio — i.e., the number of persons of working age (15-64 years) per older person — will often be halved, from 4 or 5 to 2.

Focusing on these two striking and critical trends, the report examines in detail the case of eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). In each case, alternative scenarios for the period 1995-2050 are considered, highlighting the impact that various levels of immigration would have on population size and population ageing.

Major findings of this report include:

— In the next 50 years, the populations of most developed countries are projected to become smaller and older as a result of low fertility and increased longevity. In contrast, the population of the United States is projected to increase by almost a quarter. Among the countries studied in the report, Italy is projected to register the largest population decline in relative terms, losing 28 per cent of its population between 1995 and 2050, according to the United Nations medium variant projections. The population of the European Union, which in 1995 was larger than that of the United States by 105 million, in 2050, will become smaller by 18 million.

— Population decline is inevitable in the absence of replacement migration. Fertility may rebound in the coming decades, but few believe that it will recover sufficiently in most countries to reach replacement level in the foreseeable future.

— Some immigration is needed to prevent population decline in all countries and regions examined in the report. However, the level of immigration in relation to past experience varies greatly. For the European Union, a continuation of the immigration levels observed in the 1990s would roughly suffice to prevent total population from declining, while for Europe as a whole, immigration would need to double. The Republic of Korea would need a relatively modest net inflow of migrants — a major change, however, for a country which has been a net sender until now. Italy and Japan would need to register notable increases in net immigration. In contrast, France, the United Kingdom and the United States would be able to maintain their total population with fewer immigrants than observed in recent years.

— The numbers of immigrants needed to prevent the decline of the total population are considerably larger than those envisioned by the United Nations projections. The only exception is the United States.

— The numbers of immigrants needed to prevent declines in the working- age population are larger than those needed to prevent declines in total population. In some cases, such as the Republic of Korea, France, the United Kingdom or the United States, they are several times larger. If such flows were to occur, post-1995 immigrants and their descendants would represent a strikingly large share of the total population in 2050 — between 30 and 39 per cent in the case of Japan, Germany and Italy.

— Relative to their population size, Italy and Germany would need the largest number of migrants to maintain the size of their working-age populations. Italy would require 6,500 migrants per million inhabitants annually and Germany, 6,000. The United States would require the smallest number — 1,300 migrants per million inhabitants per year.

— The levels of migration needed to prevent population ageing are many times larger than the migration streams needed to prevent population decline. Maintaining potential support ratios would in all cases entail volumes of immigration entirely out of line with both past experience and reasonable expectations.

— In the absence of immigration, the potential support ratios could be maintained at current levels by increasing the upper limit of the working-age population to roughly 75 years of age.

— The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require a comprehensive reassessment of many established policies and programmes, with a long-term perspective. Critical issues that need to be addressed include: (a) the appropriate ages for retirement; (b) the levels, types and nature of retirement and health care benefits for the elderly; (c) labour force participation; (d) the assessed amounts of contributions from workers and employers to support retirement and health care benefits for the elderly population; and (e) policies and programmes relating to international migration,

in particular, replacement migration and the integration of large numbers of recent migrants and their descendants.

The report may be accessed on the internet site of the Population Division (http://www.un.org/esa/population/unpop.htm). Further information may be obtained from the office of Joseph Chamie, Director, Population Division, United Nations, New York, NY, 10017, USA; tel. 1-212-963-3179; fax 1-212-963-2147.

SOURCE

LATER UPDATE: SO I PUT TOGETHER A FULL 1H VIDEO DOCUMENTARY TO COMPLEMENT THIS.

Replacement Migration & White Replacement – Liberals Expose The Science Between “Conspiracy!” Cries

And this should be the intro for Part Two of the above work:

Biden: “An unrelenting stream of immigration. Non-stop. That’s our strength”

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Wait, this was just the intro to the report, here are the links to the full body of work (PDF):

Annex Tables

The ideological roots of white replacement – The Kalergi Plan narrated by Chris Langan ( 200+ IQ )

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My guts are smarter than my brains, but the brains are catching up. And they do it faster when James Corbett helps out

From the very beginning of the Ukraine conflict I maintained skepticism for the narrative from both sides, as you should, but I had difficulties deciding to which extent they are BS.

Putin was full in, I bet he wants full out now, in terms of public image

Basically, my main and only dilemma was:
Did Putin enter the Ukraine stage willingly, as an actor, following the globalist script, as he always does, or was he baited and trapped in to be sacrificed on the altar of the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the GloboPedoDiversity, and now he’s really threatened existentially and fighting for survival?

DARPA invests millions in emotion-predictive AIs. Which help with riot predictions

I brought up a bunch of reasons to explain how I got to this point and why I am more inclined to believe this is all a shitshow just like the empty hospitals during the hospital overrun of 2020, or Chinese people dropping dead on the streets of Beijing “becuz Covid maaaan”.

One of my first indicators was that the script is very obsolete, old-school kinetic take over for people who are still engaging with post-WW2 propaganda movies, such as most of elder audiences in Russia and a good chunk of the American ones. This corroborates with the backwards scrap arsenal Putin sent there, probably because it was more cheap and ecological to dump them in Ukraine than at home. If you think that’s where the military is right now, as we discuss graphene oxide and transhumanism, if you think it takes more than an afternoon for a power like Russia to take over a town like Mariupol, you’re at least 50 years behind the technological curve and that’s more than all the technological progress mankind has made in its entire prior history.

Second major red flag: Russia is underplaying every hand, from propaganda to military. I’ve never seen the much feared “Russian spies”, “Russian bots” and “Russian hackers” more inhibited in my life, same as RT and other means of influence they have. Their intel nukes can implode the establishment instantly, rest assured they were among the first to get Biden’s laptops content.

GHISLAINE’S FATHER PIMPED EPSTEIN AND WHORED FOR KGB. PUTIN’S INTELLIGENCE ARSENAL MORE DEVASTATING FOR ELITES THAN NUKES

Funny how the people demanding to be followed are always behind me.
NEWSWEEK

Even the biolabs thing looks like they rather want to discredit it providing those thin files of evidences as we, independent media, made a stronger case for them than they did. This is not lazy, this is borderline sabotage.

THE BIOLABS, CHERNOBYL AND FUKUSHIMA HAVE SURPRISING THINGS IN COMMON AND THEY ARE HARDLY ACCIDENTAL

Thirdly: Putin has been working on the edifice of the New Normal for decades, you don’t exit or get “exited” just like that from a lifetime legacy.

Putin to Schwab: “We go as far back as 1992”
Davos 2021 setting up the narrative for next year?

THIS 2012 AD FOR THE RUSSIAN VERSION OF THE GREAT RESET SOUNDED NUTS THEN BUT WILL GIVE YOU CHILLS NOW

Kissinger is Klaus Schwab’s Harvard teacher and Trump’s former advisor.
He taught Mao’s work at Harvard.

BETWEEN HYSTERICALS ABOUT RUSSIAN HACKERS, WEF MEMBERS GATHER UNDER RUSSIAN HELMS TO WORK ON THE CYBER GREAT RESET

Putin @ Davos 2021: “‘The world risks sliding into an “all against all” conflict’. Because Covid.

#4: The Ukraine camp is a huge “unholy alliance” fueled by Chabad Lubavitch money and influence.

NATO, NAZIS & AL-QAEDA IN THE SAME BOAT – WE’RE THERE

ABSOLUTE MUST SEE RESOURCES ON UKRAINE

Chabad Rabbis praise Trump at 2019 NY fundraiser: “One of our greatest friends in history”

‘Starting in 1999, Putin enlisted two of his closest confidants, the oligarchs Lev Leviev and Roman Abramovich, who would go on to become Chabad’s biggest patrons worldwide, to create the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia under the leadership of Chabad rabbi Berel Lazar, who would come to be known as “Putin’s rabbi.”
A few years later, Trump would seek out Russian projects and capital by joining forces with a partnership called Bayrock-Sapir, led by Soviet emigres Tevfik Arif, Felix Sater and Tamir Sapir—who maintain close ties to Chabad. The company’s ventures would lead to multiple lawsuits alleging fraud and a criminal investigation of a condo project in Manhattan.’

POLITICO
ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT ZELENSKY IS A CHABADNIK TOO!
SOURCE

So why wouldn’t the alliance encompass Putin too, as the bad cop in the movie where leftoids play the good cop?

Fifth, but not last, the Western response to the crisis aligns more with the Covid agenda, WEF agenda and Agenda2030 than with a peace plan. They’re using the same scripts with new faces, like a gender-swapped Hollywood remake of a classic movie.

Romanian communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu came up with an even brighter idea: Alternately, one weekend was free for drivers who had even numbers on their registration plates, next weekend the uneven number took over. We actually hardly had any cars and car pollution, only industrial pollution. But he was exporting all reserves to raise money and pay out our debt to the Rothschilds. He achieved his goal with incredible sacrifices and hardships from the population, in the summer of 1989. They executed him on Christmas day same year, during the “anti-communist revolution”, in fact the first televised coup by the West (NATO and the likes of).

I could go on and make a long and detailed list, but this more than suffices to make the case.

It’s almost like Russia doesn’t want to win in Ukraine, but to linger there as long as possible, and maintain international tension without investing more than a few slaves and some scrapyard junk.

However, I was missing the weight that decisively inclines the balance either way, and I kept telling people I’m waiting for more intel before I make a definitive call.

Three weeks in, and the level of silliness in the media reports and Internet debates made my brains bleed through my eyes really badly. My skeptical inclinations inclined even more. Still no closure to the internal hesitations though.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS TO RECAP:

SCREENSHOT SOURCE

And then, just the other day, all of a sudden, Mr. James Corbett dropped the mic on this and definitively closed the internal debate for me.
I hope he will provide you with the same sense of closure and mental relief! Watch it entirely, please, no skipping, even if it seems to be off-topic in the beginning, this is masterfully built and eloquently laid out, as Corbett does, but if you try taking shortcuts you will only shortcut yourself. I don’t want to oversell it, but this will be one of the best-invested hours of your life, in 2022.

CLICK HERE FOR CORBETT’S SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES!

As per usual, Corbett doesn’t need my help in in making a full, eloquent and clear case, but I will add here, over time, more information, resources and comments that corroborate and further our understanding of this psyop.

One single comment: The Young Global Leaders history is much older, the program has been built on the shoulders of other previous attempts to create a dictator incubator.

KLAUS SCHWAB’S YOUTH IS CALLED “YOUNG GLOBAL LEADERS”, READY FOR REGIME CHANGE IN UNALIGNED COUNTRIES

Talking about YGL…

Modi: “Post World-Wars, the entire world worked on a New World Order. We need to do it again”

BONUS RESOURCES:

Below I will add other resources that corroborate with this story or enrich our context and perspective on it.

Aleksandr Dugin – “Putin is Liberal Democrat, Globalist almost”
Good Cop / Bad Cop

In the video below, please replace “Covid” with “Ukraine” and tell me what’s the difference?

Covid is a psyop – Russian Colonel of Military Intelligence and Spetsnaz (Special Forces) , May 2020

CHINESE COMMUNISM IS AS JEWISH AS ITS RUSSIAN COUSIN (YOUTUBE BAN WINNER)

WAR ON PRIVILEGE WAS THE CORE THEME OF THE COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA IN MY HOME COUNTRY AND ALL SOVIET BLOCK

THREE WEEKS LATER…

The international peasantry are just collaterals to Biden’s “preventative informational warfare”.

Three U.S. intel officials admit the W.H. practices disinfo ‘to mess with Putin’s head’ – NBC
“Can we really let Putin BACK into the New World Order?”
How the Ukraine conflict fuels the communist NWO – John Birch Society

2023 epilogue

<<As former Ambassador to Russia, Burns has been particularly influential with regard to Ukraine. The CIA had been monitoring Russia’s buildup and in November 2021, three months before the invasion, Biden dispatched Burns to Moscow to warn the Kremlin of the consequences of any attack. Though the Russian president snubbed Biden’s emissary by staying at his retreat in Sochi on the Black Sea, 800 miles away, he did agree to speak with Burns via a Kremlin secure phone.

“In some ironic ways though, the meeting was highly successful,” says the second senior intelligence official, who was briefed on it. Even though Russia invaded, the two countries were able to accept tried and true rules of the road. The United States would not fight directly nor seek regime change, the Biden administration pledged. Russia would limit its assault to Ukraine and act in accordance with unstated but well-understood guidelines for secret operations.

“There are clandestine rules of the road,” says the senior defense intelligence official, “even if they are not codified on paper, particularly when one isn’t engaged in a war of annihilation.” This includes staying within day-to-day boundaries of spying, not crossing certain borders and not attacking each other’s leadership or diplomats. “Generally the Russians have respected these global red lines, even if those lines are invisible,” the official says.

Once Russian forces poured into Ukraine, the United States had to quickly shift gears. The CIA, like the rest of the U.S. intelligence community, had misread Russia’s military capacity and Ukraine’s resilience as Russia failed to take Kyiv and withdrew from the north.

By last July, both sides settled in for a long war. As the war shifted, Washington’s focus changed from very public and symbolic troop deployments to Europe to “deter” further Russian moves, to providing weapons to sustain Ukraine’s ability to fight. In the face of Zelensky’s masterful public lobbying, the United States slowly and reluctantly agreed to supply better and longer-range weapons, weapons that in theory could threaten Russian territory and thus flirt with the feared escalation.

“Zelensky has certainly outdone everyone else in getting what he wants, but Kyiv has had to agree to obey certain invisible lines as well,” says the senior defense intelligence official. In secret diplomacy largely led by the CIA, Kyiv pledged not to use the weapons to attack Russia itself. Zelensky has said openly that Ukraine will not attack Russia.

FE Ukraine CIA Blindspot 13
Artwork in Bristol, England depicts former actor Zelensky in what many see as his latest role: political super hero.MATT CARDY/GETTY

Behind the scenes, dozens of countries also had to be persuaded to accept the Biden administration’s limits. Some of these countries, including Britain and Poland, are willing to take more risk than the White House is comfortable with. Others—including some of Ukraine’s neighbors—do not entirely share American and Ukrainian zeal for the conflict, do not enjoy unanimous public support in their anti-Russian efforts and do not want to antagonize Putin.>> – Newsweek

And these are NEW SECRET MEETINGS BETWEEN US AND RUSSIA

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